Individual Notes

Note for:   Owen Holland,   BEF 1 Feb 1691 -          Index

Baptism:   
     Date:   1 Feb 1691
     Place:   Llangelynin, Caernarvonshire

Individual Note:
               2 OBJE M3



Individual Notes

Note for:   Owen Holland,    - AFT 31 May 1729         Index

Event:   
     Type:   Living
     Date:   1694
     Place:   Llangelynin, Caernarvonshire

Will:   
     Date:   31 May 1729
     Place:   Llangelynin, Caernarvonshire

Burial:   
     Date:   Jul 1729
     Place:   Carreg y Dinas, Llangelynin, Caernarfonshire

Individual Note:
               2 OBJE M7
          2 OBJE M22

Owen married first Catherine vch Edward Williams by his wife Gaynorvch Robert of Merchlyn. Merchlyn, although in the parish of Gyffin wasdirectly down the hillside to the east of Ty Thyn Carreg Y Dinas andit seems likely that their boundaries adjoined one another. From hismarriage to Catherine, Owen produced one known child, Jane, who by theabove indentured agreement between Humphrey and Owen (Coed Coch 527)was destined to inherit Carreg Y Dinas and all the named appurtenanceson the death of Owen. This indentured agreement effectivelydisinherited any children issuing from any subsequent marriage.

We know that Jane went on to marry Robert Rogers by virtue of anindenture dated 1799 between Edward Price Lloyd and Mary VaughanDavies, within which he bargained and sold Ty Mwyga, Carreg Y Dinasand other property previously mentioned in the Coed Coch 527indenture. Within this indenture it refers to the previous ownershipas follows, "which were previously in the tenure of Robert Rogers andothers and subsequent hereto of Jane Holland, otherwise Rogers". Itappears these lands were purchased by Edward Lloyd, Baronet, and thegreat uncle of Edward Price Lloyd. We also know that Robert Rogers wasin possession of Carreg Y Dinas in 1730 from a list of freeholders ofthat date (XQS/1731/247). We know from Owen's will that Jane andRobert had two daughters Alice and Catherine who took their fathersfirst name as their surname. According to the land tax records of 1751and 1761 Alice Roberts was the occupant of Carreg Y Dinas, and in 1775Edward Edwards was the named taxpayer. It is believed that he was bythen Husband of Alice. In 1796 David Jones was tenant of Sir EdwardPrice Lloyd. The relevance of this can be seen after the death of Owenin 1729. There is also a will of Edward Williams of Caerhun(B/1702/17) within which he bequeaths a sum of money due by bonds fromOwen Holland and Jane Holland of Carreg Y Dinas. There is a burial forCatherine Holland in the Caerhun PR dated 1669. It seems highly likelythat this was Owens first wife.

Owen's second marriage was to Mary Wynne of unknown origin. This isconfirmed by the entry of her death in the Llangelynnin BishopsTranscript (BT). A search of all the known Wynne pedigrees has failedto identify a Mary born and single in the appropriate period. We knowfrom the 1662 hearth tax that there was a Wynne family in theneighbouring parish of Gyffin but we have found no information to makea connection. Another, perhaps more plausible possibility is that shecame from the Wynne family of Coed Coch near Abergele which mightexplain how the Coed Coch 527 Indenture came to be amongst the papersof that family. Assuming the Caerhun burial of Catherine Holland wasOwens first wife then it is feasible that Owen and Mary were marriedand had possibly started their family before the death of Gaynor vchRobert hence her intention to protect the interests of hergranddaughter. It may be that Gaynor died before the formal paperworkcould be drawn up.

From a combination of Owen's will, Pr's and BT's we can identifyeleven children issuing from his marriage to Mary between 1687 and1703. As all the births are not accounted for it is likely some mayhave occurred before the beginning of the PR entries. If we assumethat Owen and Mary married sometime between 1669 and 1679 there wasample time for them to have had a large family.

Owen's will B/1729/138 was probated in 1729 which is confirmed by theentry in the Llangelynnin BT as buried July, 1729. His wife Mary diedin June of the same year (BT).



Individual Notes

Note for:   Mary Wynne,    -          Index

Burial:   
     Date:   Jun 1729
     Place:   Llangelynin, Caernarvonshire

Individual Note:
     Owen's second marriage was to Mary Wynne of unknown origin. This isconfirmed by the entry of her death in the Llangelynnin BishopsTranscript (BT). A search of all the known Wynne pedigrees has failedto identify a Mary born and single in the appropriate period. We knowfrom the 1662 hearth tax that there was a Wynne family in theneighbouring parish of Gyffin but we have found no information to makea connection. Another, perhaps more plausible possibility is that shecame from the Wynne family of Coed Coch near Abergele which mightexplain how the Coed Coch 527 Indenture came to be amongst the papersof that family. Assuming the Caerhun burial of Catherine Holland wasOwens first wife then it is feasible that Owen and Mary were marriedand had possibly started their family before the death of Gaynor vchRobert hence her intention to protect the interests of hergranddaughter. It may be that Gaynor died before the formal paperworkcould be drawn up.